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Re: [linrad] linrad installation
Just to make some more noise and show what I mean with Linux
Jaroslav Kysela <>
To: Linus Torvalds
Het is a recent message from the designer of the latest driver
for my sound card. AC97 and others.
You probably know who Linux Torvalds is.
This alsa-driver-0.9.3a is the alsa driver that supports my
AC97. I was told by more than 1 source that this would be the
way to go. I am with the help, from Arie and Kohjin, able
to get this driver compiled after discovering that on my
machine at least, I have to install other software from the
collection first namely alsa-lib-0.9.3 in order to compile
the driver without errors. Small point but I did not know that
when I started with this latest alsa stuff. It may well be
that it is my inexperience with linux thatI did nor know this
I write this also for others as ALSA is a big subject for
Just to give you some feeling for these kind of problems just
try for fun on:
"AC97 Alsa" You probably want to try it in the English
version. It will show you what I mean.....
"Rein A. Smit" wrote:
> HI Peter,
> At the risk of starting a firestorm I will give my vision.
> First of all I have trouble getting Linrad to go as I do not
> want to buy the OSS license for just the audio portion of
> I do not think that has to much to do with my problem.
> I have Mandrake 9.1 here, it comes here in the US on 3 CD's
> You can buy it here in eBAY anywhere between USD 6,- and USD 10.-
> depending on shipping. There are also UK people on eBay that
> sell it for a few UK pound.
> No documentation though I have here a 8.1 version that I bought for
> USD 20.- at a store that had it on sale 6 month ago.
> With that version, 8.1, came 2 books.
> In these books you find virtually nothing that you are going to need,
> dealing with video and in particular sound as it is used in Linrad.
> If you do some home work you will find that many experts consider
> Mandrake to be very close to Red Hat. Though Mandrake seems to be
> more friendly to install.
> I have here versions of RH going back to 4 or 5 as I was interested
> in Linrad the minute I did hear about it. It was always the linux
> that kept me from starting to do anything, Computers, room on
> hard drive partitioning, making a list of your hardware etc etc.
> There are chapters and chapters written about installing Linux
> Here my experience with Mandrake. I load it as fast as I can
> run the selected parts of the 3 CD's. I have done it by now
> I guess 50 times. ( 20 minutes each ) There is nothing to be done
> than changing the CD's and adding passwords and a few other things
> like selecting waht you load, like the nightmare of "kernel"
> The system is so good that even if you want the system not to find
> a soundcard it will find it just fine.
> I believe my problem is not getting the right driver for the card
> or an old version or this or that. That is when you start talking
> linux. I get to admire Bill Gates and his people and policies!
> It is really very very nice as long as you do not mass with it and
> again many or not all of the windows stuff is there, nice graphics,
> fast etc, etc all for 6 Euros!
> Here comes to bad. As soon as you get to Linrad it becomes a
> Arie has helped me quite a lot up to the point that I feel almost
> a complete idiot, not because of him though Arie is using commands to
> get to the guts of things. I have here some 5 900 page books on Linux
> ( they are cheap here in the US ( USD 40 - 50 ) I buy them on markets
> for 20 cents on the dollar or less.
> Most of these books are published once a year ( new version of
> Linux(!) Anyway about those books most, if not everything you can
> find on the internet. Arie and Kohjin ask me to do do those
> routines and commands and I can't find a letter about them in
> these so-called linux books.
> When it comes to hardware installs like video and sound, getting
> a mouse to work in linrad etc etc, That where you need knowledge
> and UNDERSTANDING of Linux, modules, file structure how to compile
> and possibly many other items that I might not be aware of at this
> point. Bottom line is that, until we standardize on a version and
> probably, video, sound card possibly even defining the motherboard
> This Linrad will not go far for your average amateur. From
> my experiences I consider myself now a below average amateur!
> Though I have programmed in Pascal. C and Java but I am not a CC++
> programmer and that is what part of the problem is. I have too much
> problems with let me call it, Linux talk. You will get to know this
> This is a total different world and I assume there might have been
> cases where everything worked fine right away.
> BTW I had zero problems with installing Linux and the linrad software
> as per Leif's instructions no error messages But I can't this on
> motherboard sound system to work with linrad. It works fine in for
> running CD's mic's i.e. breaking the sound card into pieces and
> the Linrad software processing in between. I knew what was happening
> the minute I loaded and tried Linrad the first time. Have build
> in the old days.
> Anyway I assume, this writing will increase traffic on this
> 73 Rein W6/PA0ZN
> > Peter van Daalen wrote:
> > End of this week I will ( try to .. ) install Linux.
> > I don't like this at all but I have to since I want to work with
> > Linrad.
> > Two questions :
> > 1. Why is Linrad not Winrad ? ( Leif, what's your specific reason for
> > Linux ? I'm just curious, that's all... ).
> > 2. Is Redhat 9 the easiest one indeed for the Linux dummies ( as me..
> > ) ?
> > If so, does it make any sense to buy the professional edition ( ?
> > 199 ) instead of the regular one ( ? 45 ) ?
> > Why or why not ?
> > Thanks for help ( I'm afraid this will not be my last quest for
> > help.... :-) .
> > Peter, PE1ECM