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Re: [144MHzEu] Out of band QRM. Worst case ?
The most successful mast-head pre-amplifiers that we have
used are based on the "muTek" front-end design from the
old FT221/FT225 board, but with a few slight changes:
- use BF988 because cannot get BF981 easily any more
- put 2k2 resistor across first coil in output filter (at drain
- increase Q of front-end coil (more turns, less C) and use
0-6pf air spaced trimmer
- put 12dB attenuator on output side
When correctly set up you can get a simple, reliable, low
cost mast-head amplifier with NF ~ 0.7dB gain (before
attenuator) around 22-26dB (depends how you tune it)
and if you tune it carefully 1dB crompression point at around
We use these pre-amplifiers on the M0BAA/P and G8T
contest station in line-of-sight of 153MHz radio paging
transmitters and have no problems!
> Hi All,
> I am going to make a front end for 144 MHz that will fit
> the WSE converters and Linrad.
> There will be two RF amplifiers, one preamplifier for
> mounting in the tower and I will probably not make them
> since such amplifiers are available from many sources.
> The noise figure of RX144 will be about 11 dB and there
> is a need for a second RF amplifier with high IP3.
> The idea is to have a tower mounted preamp with a
> gain (including cable losses) of about 15 dB followed
> by a high level amplifier with a noise figure of
> about 2 dB that will add about 10 dB gain.
> A good preamplifier may have an output IP3 of +25dBm.
> The input IP3 of the RX144 is about +20 dBm but if
> both signals fall within the passband of the RX70, the
> input IP3 is only +15 dBm.
> After adding the second RF amplifier, the IP3 mis-match
> between a +25 dB IP3 preamplifier and the Linrad system
> amounts to 20 dB for in-band signals.
> The in-band input IP3 (at the antenna) will be -10 dBm
> while compression will start at something like -20 dBm.
> The second RF amplifier could incorporate a filter that
> converts in-band interference to out-of-band interference.
> Are there any signals within 10 MHz from the 2 m band that
> could produce more than -30 dBm so they would be near blocking
> or is there any risk for a signal pair that could produce
> third order intermodulation on 144 MHz ? Two equally strong
> in-band signals at -50 dBm would give IM3 at -130 dBm which
> would be well audible.
> As far as I know there is nothing here in SM but I do know
> there are pagers just below 144 MHz in the UK. It will be
> fairly easy to design filters that make performance limited
> by the mast mounted preamplifier for signals that are more
> than 4 MHz outside the band edges if one wants full sensitivity
> from 144 to 146 MHz. Likewise it would be fairly easy to make
> the system limited by the preamplifier for signals below 142.5
> or above 146 MHz if one wants full sensitivity from 144 to
> 144.5 MHz only.
> My question is: Is there a real need for better than this?
> Leif / SM5BSZ